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How to prepare 1M H2O2 using 30% hydrogen peroxide?
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WANG XF
2008-02-04 03:29:15 UTC
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Hello!

I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2 using
30% hydrogen peroxide?

Thank you all!

Lao WANG
Bean Long
2008-02-04 04:49:22 UTC
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Post by WANG XF
Hello!
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2 using
30% hydrogen peroxide?
Thank you all!
Lao WANG
Here's a handy little link:

http://www.trimen.pl/witek/calculators/stezenia.html
Aawara Chowdhury
2008-02-04 12:38:46 UTC
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Post by WANG XF
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2 using
30% hydrogen peroxide?
The molecular weight of H2O2 is 34 daltons (or close enough to 34).
1M H2O2 = 34 g/L
30% H2O2 = 300 g/L

Do the math, and dilute it in ddH2O.

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Han
2008-02-05 01:24:30 UTC
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Post by Aawara Chowdhury
Post by WANG XF
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2
using 30% hydrogen peroxide?
The molecular weight of H2O2 is 34 daltons (or close enough to 34).
1M H2O2 = 34 g/L
30% H2O2 = 300 g/L
Do the math, and dilute it in ddH2O.
AC
Don't mouth-pipet the 30%.
3 % is OK, but don't overdo it - it tastes bad.

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Dr. Hiranya S. Roychowdhury
2008-02-04 21:02:07 UTC
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30% H2O2 is 300g/Liter

1M H2O2 is 34g/Liter (approx)

Will that suffice?

(This is what most of us are amazed about! Apoptosis is a good thing ---
thank God!)
Post by WANG XF
Hello!
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2
using
30% hydrogen peroxide?
Thank you all!
Lao WANG
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Pow Joshi
2008-02-04 22:43:49 UTC
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Post by Dr. Hiranya S. Roychowdhury
30% H2O2 is 300g/Liter
1M H2O2 is 34g/Liter (approx)
Will that suffice?
(This is what most of us are amazed about! Apoptosis is a good thing ---
thank God!)
LOL! ... sorry I could'nt help but notice your last remark about
apoptosis....

Pow
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Hello!
Post by WANG XF
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2
using
30% hydrogen peroxide?
Thank you all!
Lao WANG
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WANG XF
2008-02-05 14:45:08 UTC
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*Thanks for your help!*
**
*30% H2O2 is 300g/L? or 300L/L or 300g/g?*
**
*Some of my colleagues have different suggestions.*
**
*Thank you!*
**
*Lao WANG*


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Hello!
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2
using
30% hydrogen peroxide?
Thank you all!
Lao WANG
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Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:49:22 +1100
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Post by WANG XF
Hello!
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2
using
Post by WANG XF
30% hydrogen peroxide?
Thank you all!
Lao WANG
http://www.trimen.pl/witek/calculators/stezenia.html
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Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:38:46 GMT
Subject: Re: How to prepare 1M H2O2 using 30% hydrogen peroxide?
Post by WANG XF
I want to use H2O2 as an inducer of apoptosis. How to prepare 1M H2O2
using
Post by WANG XF
30% hydrogen peroxide?
The molecular weight of H2O2 is 34 daltons (or close enough to 34).
1M H2O2 = 34 g/L
30% H2O2 = 300 g/L
Do the math, and dilute it in ddH2O.
AC
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WS
2008-02-05 19:09:35 UTC
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Dear Lao,

that's the real issue. All your assumptions may be true.

IMHO is is *absolutely* necessary to specify m/v (mass/volume), m/m or
v/v. It even makes a difference if you (in this case rather
hypothetically as solid H2O2 does not exist [at least for a long
time]) mix 300 ml of H2O2 and 700ml of water, put 300 ml H2O2 in a
beaker and add water up to 1liter or vice versa. Does not make always
a real difference in the outcome of an experiment, but when you need
to troubleshoot a protocol or reproduce an experiment, this kind of
things will drive you nuts. There is nothing like a 'common sense' on
how to make procentual solutions. If possible, always state molar
contents, therefore.

All the best,

Wo
Post by WANG XF
*Thanks for your help!*
**
*30% H2O2 is 300g/L? or 300L/L or 300g/g?*
**
*Some of my colleagues have different suggestions.*
**
*Thank you!*
**
*Lao WANG*
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DK
2008-02-06 01:20:15 UTC
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Post by WS
Dear Lao,
that's the real issue. All your assumptions may be true.
IMHO is is *absolutely* necessary to specify m/v (mass/volume), m/m or
v/v. It even makes a difference if you (in this case rather
hypothetically as solid H2O2 does not exist [at least for a long
time]) mix 300 ml of H2O2 and 700ml of water, put 300 ml H2O2 in a
beaker and add water up to 1liter or vice versa.
Industrial % concentrations tend to be m/m. This is clearly
the case, for example, with concentrated HCl (~ 37% ~ 12M)
or concentrated H3PO4 (85% = 15.2M).

MSDS for 30% H2O2 says "balance water", suggesting
that indeed we are talking about 300 g + 700 g water.
In which case precise molarity calculattion become
troublesome even knowing density of 100% H2O2
because water solutions can change volume
appreciably (e.g. 500 ml ethanol + 500 ml H2O
will result in less than 1000 ml solution).

Not that any of that matters in the experiment in
question! Assuming no volume change and m/m
for 30% and density off 199% of 1.4 g/ml from
Wikipedia, we get 22-28% error depending on the
direction. With the "1 M" being clearly an arbitrary
round number, I wouln't worry about potential
25% error as long as the way the solution is prepared
is clearly stated.

DK
Pow Joshi
2008-02-06 18:09:45 UTC
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Post by WS
Dear Lao,
that's the real issue. All your assumptions may be true.
IMHO is is *absolutely* necessary to specify m/v (mass/volume), m/m or
v/v. It even makes a difference if you (in this case rather
hypothetically as solid H2O2 does not exist [at least for a long
time]) mix 300 ml of H2O2 and 700ml of water, put 300 ml H2O2 in a
beaker and add water up to 1liter or vice versa.
Industrial % concentrations tend to be m/m. This is clearly
the case, for example, with concentrated HCl (~ 37% ~ 12M)
or concentrated H3PO4 (85% = 15.2M).
MSDS for 30% H2O2 says "balance water", suggesting
that indeed we are talking about 300 g + 700 g water.
In which case precise molarity calculattion become
troublesome even knowing density of 100% H2O2
because water solutions can change volume
appreciably (e.g. 500 ml ethanol + 500 ml H2O
will result in less than 1000 ml solution).
Not that any of that matters in the experiment in
question! Assuming no volume change and m/m
for 30% and density off 199% of 1.4 g/ml from
Wikipedia, we get 22-28% error depending on the
direction. With the "1 M" being clearly an arbitrary
round number, I wouln't worry about potential
25% error as long as the way the solution is prepared
is clearly stated.
yes, that is true.... H2O2 would be w/w.... the MSDS generally does'nt give
the information, however, calling the company would give. Frankly, I did'nt
know that this is true for all industrial preparation..... Thank you Dima.

Pow

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Virash Gupta
2008-02-08 13:15:31 UTC
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30 % H2O2 is 8.84 M solution. Dilute 8.84 times. The problem is solved.
all the best
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First prepare a 2 M solution by diluting 2.26 ml of your stock to 10 ml,
then make serial 1:10 dilutions down to 2 mM
or
prepare a 200 mM solution first diluting 226 ul of your stock to 10 ml
and then another 1:100 dilution to 2 mM. As you prefer....
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Hello,
How do i work this out?
I need 2mM H2O2 from a stock solution H2O2 of 30%, density 1.11 gr/ml,
M.W. 34
anybody?
thanks upfront
b
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What is the difference between Dulbecco`s PBS vs PBS pH7.4?
Does it make a difference if I just use it to wash cells (293, MEFs
etc) before trypsination or lysation?
Thanks!
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Post by WS
Dear Lao,
that's the real issue. All your assumptions may be true.
IMHO is is *absolutely* necessary to specify m/v (mass/volume), m/m or
v/v. It even makes a difference if you (in this case rather
hypothetically as solid H2O2 does not exist [at least for a long
time]) mix 300 ml of H2O2 and 700ml of water, put 300 ml H2O2 in a
beaker and add water up to 1liter or vice versa.
Industrial % concentrations tend to be m/m. This is clearly
the case, for example, with concentrated HCl (~ 37% ~ 12M)
or concentrated H3PO4 (85% = 15.2M).
MSDS for 30% H2O2 says "balance water", suggesting
that indeed we are talking about 300 g + 700 g water.
In which case precise molarity calculattion become
troublesome even knowing density of 100% H2O2
because water solutions can change volume
appreciably (e.g. 500 ml ethanol + 500 ml H2O
will result in less than 1000 ml solution).
Not that any of that matters in the experiment in
question! Assuming no volume change and m/m
for 30% and density off 199% of 1.4 g/ml from
Wikipedia, we get 22-28% error depending on the
direction. With the "1 M" being clearly an arbitrary
round number, I wouln't worry about potential
25% error as long as the way the solution is prepared
is clearly stated.
yes, that is true.... H2O2 would be w/w.... the MSDS generally does'nt
give
the information, however, calling the company would give. Frankly, I
did'nt
know that this is true for all industrial preparation..... Thank you Dima.
Pow
DK
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Hi,
You may want to give try alpha-amanitin, which is a
highly specific inhibitor of RNA polymerase II. It is
known that exposure to this reagent causes apoptosis
in human cells.
Good luck,
Ozan
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What is the difference between Dulbecco`s PBS vs PBS pH7.4?
Probably none. Gibco used to specify its Dulbecco's PBS
PH as 7.0-7.5. "PBS" is a mess. It can refer to a number of
similar solutions, each with and without Ca2+ and/or Mg2+.
Does it make a difference if I just use it to wash cells (293, MEFs
etc) before trypsination or lysation?
In the range in question, pH won't make a difference but for
trypsinization there might be a diffrence between PBS
containing divalents or not. Don't think it will be significant
if you use trypsin-EDTA.
DK
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HYDROGEN PEROXIDE
c(H2O2) = 1 mol/L
=======================
To prepare 100 mL of a 1 mol/L solution of hydrogen peroxide we will need to dilute 5.68513 mL of 50 % H2O2 to a final volume of 100 mL with deionized (distilled) water.


SOURCE:
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Name: Hydrogen peroxide
Formula: H2O2
Formula weight: 34.015 g/mol
CAS Number: 7722-84-1
NFPA: Health 3, Flammability 0, Instability 1, Special OX


CALCULATION:
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The key concept is that the amount of solute in the desired solution must be equal to the amount of solute in the source solution. Remember, the concentration is the amount of a solute divided by the volume of the solution.

Before we make any calculations we have to make sure that we only use one system and one unit of measurement. DO NOT mix measurement systems and units.

Desired solution:
V0 = 100 mL * (1 L)/(1000 mL) = 0.1 L
c0 = 1 mol/L
Source solutions:
w1 = 50 % = 50 * 1/100 = 0.5
d1 = 1.19662 kg/L * (1 g/L)/(0.001 kg/L) = 1196.62 g/L
--------------------------------

Then, we determine the concentration of the source (stock) solution

c1 = d(H2O2) * w(H2O2) / M(H2O2)
c1 = 1196.62 g/L * 0.5 / 34.0147 g/mol
c1 = 17.5897 mol/L

Since the total amount of solute is the same before and after dilution, the volume of stock solution needed is

V1 = V0 * c0 / c1
V1 = 0.1 L * 1 mol/L / 17.5897 mol/L
V1 = 0.00568513 L

To convert the result into a desired unit we will use dimensional analysis again

V(50 % H2O2) = 0.00568513 L * (1000 mL)/(1 L) = 5.68513 mL


PROCEDURE:
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First of all, fill the volumetric flask about halfway with deionized water to avoid violent reactions. NEVER add water to concentrated acid.

Choose a clean pipette of suitable size and transfer the liquid to the volumetric flask. When the whole solution has been drained, touch the tip of the pipette to the side of the volumetric flask to allow the last of the liquid to drain out. DO NOT blow out the remaining solution.

Allow the solution to reach room temperature because a volumetric flask is only accurate at the temperature at which it has been calibrated (usually 20 癈). Very carefully fill the flask to the mark on the neck of the flask, using a dropping pipette to add the last few milliliters of liquid. Mix your solution thoroughly, by inverting the flask and shaking. NEVER hold large volumetric flasks by the neck alone - provide support at the bottom.

Transfer the prepared solution to a clean, dry storage bottle and label it. NEVER store solutions in a volumetric flask.


SAFETY NOTES:
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- When making chemical solutions, always use the appropriate safety equipment.
- As a general rule, always add the more concentrated solution to the less concentrated solution.
- All chemicals that you are unfamiliar with should be treated with extreme care and assumed to be highly flammable and toxic.
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